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I haven't written code since December last year. It's not writing the code that's valuable.
If coding is dead, we don't need programming languages, we can write prompts instead of functions and statements, and compile directly from prompts to machine code. This is the future.
I treat death of programming claims the same way I tread claims about the Big Kim finally dying from his totally real terminal tumor. Expect one every 3 months and always expect it to be wrong.
If I AI is so good, why can't I just say "Claued here is 200 USD for a server, make a new app that makes me money"..
... HAH jokes on you.... do you know if I even wrote this comment?!?!??!?!
DHH : you should use your influence to push the open web forward. Fuk native. Period. All that should matter to anyone of goodwill is the success of the open web platform.
He's not wrong though. It's absolutely over.
I write PLC code, 100% of software, siemens is not letting ai be useful, thank god (for now)
About not having mass layoffs:<br>The Jevons Paradox is an economic concept stating that as technology improves the efficiency of using a resource, the total consumption of that resource often increases rather than decreases.
Why are they trying so hard to make developers look foolish and clueless about their field? Write the code yourself if you have the time.
It was Rails 21st birthday... to celebrate, it drunk itself to death after its founder conveyed he had long-ago gotten his FU $$
I've been a programmer since 1994, and I don't write code anymore, neither for work nor for my personal projects.
Easy to not take the blackpill if your interests in life are purely engineering problems. If you enjoy clean water, a livable earth though....
You still need a pilot to "fly" the plane.
Dih has gone off the rails ๐ฅ
Not mentioning that DHH is an overt fascist is kinda burying the lede here a lil bit lol. Like he's been crazy for years
I have been practicing and find out that for me the best way to work with AI is using neovim with opencode together. In this setup AI write code and I quickly reviewing changes and make small fixes. Big fixes are also being done by AI. My tasks are more of a reviewer of the direction of the expected intentionality against what is actually written. And as long as I am putting my butt when pushing code I reviewed everything in detail so technically it also looks good.
"I thought [Rails] had a chance against AI slop because it's <b>productivity advantage".</b><br><br>Such a hilarious comment, only a Rails disciple would make.
I am guilty I am no longer writing code
I still think that in a lot of cases the constraint of writing code by hand is a good thing. Certainly in the context of working on software that's established and has a sizable user base depending on it. I'm more than willing to be proven wrong here, but I've exclusively worked in this context and haven't seen signs that would prove otherwise yet.
DHH is so fucking cringe
My agent posted this comment
I no longer write code, I herd AI agents. I actually enjoy the interactions with AI, and the productivity they add. Wonder how many months I have left in this career.
You can't !!! Horse Tinder canโt given up; to recoin Scooter: Psycho ! Psycho ! - of course Web-API and consumer-robo-spyware can easily rewritten by AI, but I already think about extending CS and Math knowledge to bi-directional category theory and more monad types (machines improve + people get smarter than Web-API-slop โฆ).
When will this AI torture end?
The DONKR think is FUCKING HILARIOUS
If you go to any conference now, nobody is writing code by hand. At Google Next I felt like an old man for writing code while everyone else was talking about what agent they prefer
I write my own stuff AND I let AI write other stuff.
Should've learnt COBOL bro, there's not enough training data out there to enable the clankers, winning.
Petition for Fireship to apply to YC with horsetinder
Im going back and forth, currently tending to writing more code myself again. I experienced that letting ai rip, leads to too much and too complex code, that can quickly become hard to maintain. Itโs also way easier to reason about code, when writing it, instead of when reviewing it. While writing you explore the codebase yourself, understand more of it and naturally get an inner map of that code labyrinth. Canโt really get that by looking at some diffs. Maybe itโs just a matter of the context of AIs being too small compared to a human atm, which might change in the future. In the end I see it as a tool, that should support me and since I work more on existing codebases than on green field or prototypes, I see myself still being deeply buried in the codebase.
I mean ya, I hand code, but like, it's not often only hand code.
Yes
I still write code by hand to not forget how to write code.
Just signed my gay donkey up for Donkr
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuNKBjuV7A4&t=165">2:45</a> like the new prisma update, like who tf asked for it dude.
He's 100% correct.<br>It's entirely unviable for a human to write code already.<br>Think about where we'll be in 3 - 6 months.
Still coding
yeah, i write code... sometimes mostly pyh shell commands
Don't make mistakes, don't tell me it's unethical lmao
Omarchy for life
Jokes on point ๐๐๐
It doesn't sound worthwhile to attend a rails conference. Besides, since all code will be written by AI in the future, it sounds like that conference would cease to exist.
Hes right
Tech lead with 15 years xp here. Haven't wrote a line since the begining of the year.
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuNKBjuV7A4&t=128">2:08</a> I don't have a mouse ....
I haven't wrote code properly since opus 4.5...
And the sponsor of this channel is Raid: Shadow Agents, the new mobile game with a progressive Pay to Work subscription plan.
not directed at the video, but anyone who still takes this racist seriously is really off the rails tbh
I like that your video ends with an advertisement so it's easier to skip it.
"We're going off the RAILS on the hazy train!" (not a typo). I miss Ozzy Osbourne.
Sure cause DHH obviously has no second intentions whatsoever in promoting AI agents
Fellas! It is time to be a test-scenario space architect.<br>Lets test code, written by AI,<br>powerful and productive way,<br>using "Combinatorics Framework"<br>(I am the author and developer)
i don't follow the guy but from what i can tell he's just fully offloaded his brain to AI. meat proxy replying to bug fixes with "ewe have unlimited tokens to fix things" not his exact words but pretty close to what he's said on github
I don't write code, but I'm busy as ever. If you're a software engineer and you're not working this way, good luck.
dude this horse tinder thing is Awesome bojack horse man will luv this
Definitely still write it by hand.
I still write code cause it's fun to think
most probably he was paid...
One year ago, AI wrote 10% of my code at most. Now I write 10% of the code at most.<br><br>Not sure when or if this will reach 0% hand-written code for complex systems, though. Even Anthropic developers write around 10% of the code themselves - and that's presumably the most important parts.
DHH has gone off the rails and ascended into agentic hyperspace. You don't understand, Ship. Soon the great journey will begin. But when it does, the weight of your hand-coding will stay your feet
Why tf all this thing will converge if all of them are written and maintained by humans? It's like saying that the books will disappear because LLM can generate any book you want
Code = Math, we still tech math in paper in Universities, even if we have AI, calculator, PC....
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuNKBjuV7A4&t=58">0:58</a> <br>God tier transition ๐๐
TLDR not using rust was a skill issue
i mean like: do we have to understand zeros and ones to use a computer? hell no. then why would we need to understand rust or any other progamming language?
Each time the hype is making us levitate, Fireship bring us back to earth.
Don't worry fireship, I still write vanilla JS by hand๐
Ah, yes. The best argument is... getting called a loser for not wanting the same thing as a crazy guy. Also known as the trump card. I have yet to encounter AI generated code that does not have some quite obvious mistakes in it, and needs a considerable amount of oversight do get it right - near the time it takes me to learn and write it myself. But I probably do not spent enough money on tokens, I guess.
I write code but Idk for how long. IT replaced internal facing apps with AI slop. My tech lead is using AI and is pressuring me to. Its very exciting to see my tech lead have claude rewrite the web application I am working on to have a completely new front end framework with vue.js
The Pope pretty much did do just that recently.
This is what MS has been saving the next BASIC for. U just wait.
Time to uninstall Omarchy then
Just krill me.
Sorry, I cannot leave a comment on the video, because I refuse to write anything anymore, and my agent cannot interact with youtube's api without breaking out of its sandbox.
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuNKBjuV7A4">0:00</a> to <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuNKBjuV7A4&t=71">1:11</a> = lmfao
Ok, I shouldn't have been drinking when I saw "Donkr". My keyboard is soaked.
People are still unironically using rails? LOL. It's funny when fame gets to peoples heads and the go off to make wild speculative claims in hopes of having another moon shot.
Unemployment is gonna hit like a truck boys... be prepared
first time i saw DHH my opinion was, alright this dude seems to sniff his own farts. and now he is proving my intuitions and is snorting his own poo.
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuNKBjuV7A4&t=222">3:42</a> ๐ฏ
Damn .. my current career is still RoR based, and obviously feel that the job market is definitely very tight and slow for RoR developers that don't have expertise of 1+ major languages or frameworks. Oh <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuNKBjuV7A4&t=158">2:38</a> developer happiness is dead ... right. Bet DHH has converted or forced to convert because RoR framework is much easier for AI to figure out, we only need to design, test and deploy.
his behavior is definitely concerning, but he is not completely wrong. if they can now serve 20x customers with the same server hardware, that is relevant. before AI my job was only 10-20% of my time writing code. and to be honest i dont miss the typing. what are all the anti ai ppl so salty about?!
Waiting for the 2033 Fireship video
Remind me, what's Rails good for again? Like, what was it good for?
I just finished writing a piece of angular
AHahhaha he so right tho
Coding is dead, long live Coding.
No code here. Iโm like the dude watching the matrix now. Economics is slow. Also the bulk of industry has not adopted at the level we developers have. They will for the same reason we did.
I still don't trust AI code, also it's getting expensive
DHH sounds like a leader of a psychotic religious cult
I still write by hand.
Snarfed my coffee at Donkr.
'Kids watch you back cause I think they smoke crack' Phife dawg
Well, I suck at programming and I'm here trying to get better at C just for fun and I hate vibe coding, so coding isn't dead yet.
I write code for fun now. Something I havenโt done in 25 years. Work killed my passion for it. Itโs back now, because the mundane bullshit is handled by the LLM now. Never make what you love your career
DONKR HAD ME DYING XD
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuNKBjuV7A4&t=206">3:26</a> mf, say that again?!!!!
You know it's all about tech and stuff on this chanel, but if I ever had to do a movie where I'd need a secondary but very dislikeable guy..<br>I would definetely pick DHH. He just fits this role so much ๐
Why to write code if you can write a slop granade?
