I explain the gospel to Julian Dorey

This is not the gospel. I like Wes and he is much smarter and more educated than I, but his calvinist baggage only confuses and messes up the message. The gospel is simple, so simple a 5 year old can understand it. Hebrews says salvation is elementary, God made it that way to leave all without excuse. Calvinism is a plague.

Christianity mercy is somebody else being punished for your sins. That is soooo perfect justice.

This video should be renamed: “Wes explains why he thinks penal substitutionary atonement equals the gospel.”<br>And of course, the problem with that is, it’s not very biblical at all. Can we please get some apologists maybe he was smaller arms, and bigger brains?

I think on these verses about what happened upon The Cross. Mercy, Truth , Righteousness, and Peace:<br><br>Shew us thy mercy, O LORD, and grant us thy salvation.<br>I will hear what God the LORD will speak: for he will speak peace unto his people, and to his saints: but let them not turn again to folly.<br>Surely his salvation is nigh them that fear him; that glory may dwell in our land.<br>Mercy and truth are met together; righteousness and peace have kissed each other.<br>— Psalm 85:7-10

Me, me, me. Thats what the modern gispel has become. A personal transaction. No. It is so much bigger than this. God has acted decisively in history through Israel’s Messiah, and we are being invited, commanded, to become part of the new humanity forming under him.

Dorey is exhausting.

Jesus demonstrating the first law of thermodynamics!! The sin/error cannot be removed. The law, the justice, cannot be dodged aka erased. It can only be transferred or alchemized. This is Grace. 🤯🤯🤯

Mercy does not getting what you deserve <br>Grace is getting what you don&#39;t deserve

Wes. &lt;3

Beautiful explanation of the Christian faith, and why it is sooooo different than all other faiths.

“You’re accepted - then do, think, act” changed my perspective completely. I was stuck in thinking I had to earn holiness which lead me down an aesthetic path and a lot of unhappiness.

This

There in lies the problem with Christianity. Jesus paid the ultimate price and with that sin was taken away and Grace abounds and Christians do all kinds of wickedness. It’s really sad because someone like Jeffery Dahmer can ask for forgiveness and profess Jesus Christ is lord and make it into heaven…….

Quick verdict<br>The one-line read, plus how charitable this scale is meant to be.<br><br>Narrowed gospel<br>This sermon uses biblical themes but narrows the gospel — the cosmic, kingdom, and new-creation dimensions are largely missing.

Sorry brother this is NOT the Gospel....the evangulian

How does the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth experience all of the sin that we commit on Himself?

Punishing an innocent victim on behalf of another is not just and would not demonstrate God’s justice; it would show Him to be unjust.

The title of this talk has little to do with the question. Pretty convoluted answer that sounds more like a Perceptive personality on the Myers-Briggs, showing he won&#39;t be pinned down (lol). The question was &quot;What is the biggest misconception about Christianity?&quot; and Wes reduces the answer to soteriology, which all the Sunday-morning sloganeers would do (see Megan Basham&#39;s book, Shepherds for Sale). If it were me in the hot seat, I would definitely say (I&#39;m a &quot;J&quot; on MBs, btw), &quot;That leadership knows what they are doing, bc the majority have no earthly clue.&quot; I would say that this problem is connected to biblical illiteracy, to church decisions (e.g., liturgy, beliefs, polity, monetary issues, training, etc.), their exercise and teaching of evangelism, how they view suffering for the gospel, and their shepherding attitude. The 5 Crowns of Reward cover all these; see our book, Crowns of Valor (Morgan James).

Lets not forget there is a final judgement. This in itself means that Jesus did not die for all but only the elect. Therefore God did not pour his full wrath on Jesus. His full wrath will be quenched after the unbelievers are judged. One cannot get away from this fact. If Jesus died for everyones sin, then everyone is forgiven and there should be no judgement. But there is one.

Beast in the hood 😭 not cool why 🤔 look go jail 😢 not get rich in heaven

So who knows 🤣 ET lie 🤥? 🤥 I know I see 🤣

Word of God is rich 🤑 but not 🚫 work 😭 he will not get up 😁 to be rich 🤑

So if get time 😁 I will be talk about mask 🎭 in world 😅😢 and how not 🚫 of God but the Red dragon . So if the beast get power and sit 🪑 of the dragon 🐉 yes 💪😂 get real big lost 😂 come out 😭 talk about how not go loose 😢yes I know how cut down so run around hell 🤣 not get out

The Bible talk about beast and who give the beast power not heaven

Peace of heaven with some all the time so motivation don&#39;t come and go way

And one don&#39;t have to be a beast to get rich 🤑 heaven rich 🤑

And love all EZ 😂❤ we love for just being alive but look around how love ways of the beast 😢

And one hour of judgment is real life and ez 🤣 know how get life out of the world and in the spirit 😁🙏

And the apostle Paul talk about how one put on in mortality😂 but look in the church 😭 who talk about everlasting life? Do see why 🤔 a angel 😇 have the everlasting gospel

Everlasting life some good 😊 and what the Lord Jesus Christ talk about in the Bible

Get some black people talking about how white people 😭 devil 😈 ok and get some people 😭 who open the Bible but the holy Ghost 👻 help don&#39;t know

To study the Bible wouldn&#39;t it be good to study with the holy Ghost 👻 help not a religious 😔

In the Bible talk about everlasting gospel and this angel 😇 real life and on earth 🌍 not of a Muslim 😢 or religious but what he give from God and Jesus Christ not God

A real life teacher in the Bible is the holy Ghost 👻 not a religious of men 😭

The Bible hold the gospel but look around in the church 😭 the talk is religion 😢

Islam just like to talk about love for one color 😢. Jesus Christ say 😂 love all if one love all not look 👀 for color

Apostles talk about 😂 gospel not religious and have power

Islam is of God, to know the holy God and Jesus Christ

To be in the spirit of God and the spirit of God in one 😂. So if one of God 🤣🙏 John 1 12 if one 😂 get to be a son of God one who not of the world

God is a real spirit and in the Bible God said his son come and what the angel 😇 Gabriel said son not God

Nuts to Islam teaching mercy. Fuck that explanation.. There are literally millions of deaths due to Islam’s “mercy.”<br>This is where a professor’s theory is in direct defiance of reality.

YOU got it WES ive been listening to your analytical approach alot and its spot on great. job

God bless you, Wes Huff. This young man, KNOWING your stance on faith, uses God’s name in vain and curses, while you witness and answer his questions. I hope that he looks back and realizes what a blessing was handed him.

@WesHuff<br>1. Sola Scriptura (“Scripture Alone”) 2 Timothy 3:16–17; Isaiah 8:20; Acts 17:11
<br>The Bible is the ultimate authority in matters of faith and practice.
<br>Church tradition, councils, or leaders are not equal to Scripture.
<br>Scripture is sufficient and clear for salvation.
<br>2. Sola Fide (“Faith Alone”) Romans 3:28; Ephesians 2:8–9; Galatians 2:16
<br>People are justified (declared righteous before God) by faith alone, not by works.
<br>Good works are the result of salvation, not the cause.
<br>3. Sola Gratia (“Grace Alone”) Ephesians 2:8; Romans 11:6; Titus 3:5
<br>Salvation is entirely a gift of God’s grace, not something earned.
<br>Humans cannot save themselves; it is God who initiates and completes salvation.
<br>4. Solus Christus (“Christ Alone”) John 14:6; Acts 4:12; 1 Timothy 2:5
<br>Jesus Christ is the only mediator between God and humanity.
<br>Salvation comes only through Christ, not through priests, saints, or other intermediaries.
<br>5. Soli Deo Gloria (“To the Glory of God Alone”) 1 Corinthians 10:31; Romans 11:36; Ephesians 1:11–12
<br>All of life—including salvation—is for God’s glory alone.
<br>No human (including religious leaders) deserves ultimate glory.

Wes, doesn’t the gospel include the imminent second coming? <br>Blessings

I&#39;m not a Christian at the moment, but I have recently reflected on something I said to someone once, &quot;I like to think that I&#39;m a good person.&quot; That word &quot;think&quot; is the focus of my reflection. Perhaps I am more good than bad, but I know things that I have done aren&#39;t good. The idea that we are all inherently flawed is true. The idea that we can&#39;t make up for everything is true. No one person can ever say that they are flawless.

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two religions....one of doing, that encompasses pretty much the whole bunch, and one being......spoiler alert. Christianity......

So Jesus threw hell on earth to help random people who claim he’s god? That makes more sense than God just being understanding of his creation and being able to forgive them?

THE GOSPEL - 1 Corinthians 15:1&amp;2 1, Moreover, breathern declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in the which you stand. <br><br>2, By the which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you-unless you believed In vain.<br><br>Ephesians 2:8 &amp;9<br>8, For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: 9, it is a gift of God,Not of works, lest anyone should boast.

As Gen Z, Wesley and Redeemed Zoomer are my favs to listen to

It’s truly an amazing story and very revealing about the human condition. Where a single mans barbaric treatment and unjust suffering becomes the centerpiece of the worlds biggest religion. The cross he was murdered on holds universal symbolic meaning to put all our personal suffering in a different context. His teachings about forgiveness, love for your neighbors, love your enemies, had to be so radical and insane for those times. It has to be a big reason why the western world progressed so quickly. Think about blood feuds and how they never seem to end. Eye for an eye was a real thing and still practiced among tribal peoples like the bedouins.

I wish that i could explain it this way .I really like this man .

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVeEBLrb8bM&amp;t=177">2:57</a> Your statement that God in Islam only forgives without punishment is not true. God in islam never forgives arbitrarily. Islam has punishments in this life and the hereafter. For example, if you commit a sin and harm someone—for instance, if you steal, lie, or betray a trust—then God&#39;s forgiveness requires you to repent for your actions. You must not repeat your actions if you wish to be encompassed by God&#39;s mercy, and you must restore the rights of those you wronged. If you kill someone, for example, the punishment is to be killed in the same manner as you did, according to the law and its application by the authorities.

Praise Jesus 🙏❤️✝️

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVeEBLrb8bM&amp;t=470">7:50</a> I think Wes means “inverting” (turning upside down) the system not “subverting” (corrupting) the system, based on his hand motion turning it upside down and the context

We can have forgiveness of and freedom from sin in Christ by grace by faith working through love by the Holy Spirit of God within (mercy) and we will be judged well for accepting Christ’s gift of faith working through love, which will show in results of good works/deeds/fruit of love (justice) or be judged as evil for rejecting Christ’s gift of faith working through love, which will show in results of evil works/deeds/fruit of sins (justice). The sobering truth is that many people will choose temporary pleasures of sin/sins like Esau who traded long-term inheritance for the pleasure, sustenance, and self-gain of a meal rather than looking to, depending on, and trusting in God in faith and love toward God … or … like the Israelites who traded the promised land for forty years in the desert … or … like Adam and Eve who traded eternal paradise for a fruit because it looked good to the eyes, seemed good for the flesh, and appeared to be able to make them wise so they could rule themselves without God using, not just good, but good and evil, to gain for themselves apart from God which resulted in them being separated from God, the giver of love, life, and heaven, by their own free will choice of self-determination and death forever instead of staying yielded to God in only his good love without evil unto eternal life. However, the good news is Christ has finished the work for us so that, as believers, we can live freed from sin’s dominion and in God’s (love’s) dominion instead. While believers are still capable of sin if we step out of abiding (1 John 2:1, Galatians 5), Christ has enabled, enlightened, and empowered us to abide in Him, walk in the Spirit, and confess and repent/turn into God from sin. A true Christian is not one who cannot turn from God back to sin, so that they are no longer a true Christian, even if they claim to be one, calling Jesus “Lord, Lord” … rather, a true Christian is one who chooses to abide in Christ and love God with “all” they are, say, and do, and love others as themself by the power of godliness Christ has given, rather than sin. What I am saying is the good news is God has not left humanity in sin, confusion, or death. Through Jesus Christ: You can be forgiven and freed from sin, death, and hell, and the power thereof now completely; You can be restored to God as your Source and live a new life of love now, one with God and in Christ following Him; And you can enter eternal life forever and remain forever, even after this lifetime is over, which is when things will get exponentially better… Not by striving. Not by earning. But by: Grace → through faith → working through love → by the Holy Spirit and Word of God. In summary, the good news is that God, through Christ, offers to restore you from sin to Himself as your Source, by grace through faith, so that you live in love now and forever, with blessings you receive by grace, give generously in return to God and others, and are blessed with 100-fold blessings from God who gives more and more as we live and obey Him in love for others … and all of this is no matter your past, whether you have been <br>1. anti-God/love/religion totally opposed to Christ or atheistic, <br>2. or if you’ve been non-God/love/religion, lukewarm, in the middle, not totally for or against Christ, or agnostic, <br>3. or if you’ve been for a false God or false love or false religion or for an idol, professing to be for God or for Christ or for a religion or spiritual, but yet knowing you sin or fall short of God and the Bible’s one standard, which is not of laws, but of one law of love: “love your God with “all” your heart/spirit, with “all” your mind/soul, and with “all” your body/strength (with “all” your beliefs, with “all” your beatitudes, and with “all” your behaviors at “all” times, in “all” ways, and to “all” people — always and only), and love others as yourself, Christlike — family, friends, enemies, the poor, orphans, widows, the imprisoned — all not by your works but by God’s grace and faith working unto good works/deeds/fruit of love, which you allow the Holy Spirit to produce from within you, thus doing the word of God.<br><br>THE FINAL SUMMARY<br><br>The true gospel of the true Christ is this:<br><br>God, through Jesus Christ, restores you from sin to Himself—God/YHWH/Father, the Spirit of love, good, light, grace, and truth—as your Source, by grace through faith working through love; so that you are forgiven of your sins, freed from sin’s dominion, and brought into union with God now and forever—bearing the fruit of love, life, and heaven—instead of sin, death, and hell—as you abide in Him. <br><br>Those who turn back to sin, refusing to abide in Christ, reject the only sacrifice for sins and will be judged accordingly. <br><br>Those who turn from sin, choosing to remain in Christ, receive the benefit of His sacrifice and will be judged accordingly. <br><br>This is the full harmony of mercy and justice revealed in Christ.<br><br>The core:<br>God, through Christ, restores you from sin to Himself as your Source—by grace through faith—so you live in love now and forever.

Julian says in the end “I’ve never heard that interpretation before”. That’s the thing. So many people haven’t - cse they don’t understand the essence of Christianity, it’s obvious. People have always been thinking that Christianity is about “be good, don’t sin”, whereas it’s about the Gospel of grace through Jesus Christ. ❤

Wes almost got there! <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVeEBLrb8bM&amp;t=221">3:41</a> I agree with Wes. Brilliant. But modern Christians stop short of the full truth that everyone can be forgiven through Christ by Christ because of Christ (mercy) when they repent (turn) from sin to God by faith in Christ, but also everyone will be judged for their works of either love or sins after being forgiven of and freed from sin (justice) - true faith results in works of love - Christ offers the form of godliness and the power thereof - He offers the mercy of forgiveness and true grace of freedom from sin, and the power of the Holy Spirit to live godly, so that we can bear much good fruit of love - love for family and friends, but also for the fatherless, widows, sick, imprisoned, poor, and even enemies, just as Christ gave us His example loving to the death, commandment to love as he loved, and spirit to do so, as his branches, temple, body, bride - in other words, all metaphors of being one with him and one with God his Father and our Father by faith, just as he described and prayed in John 15-17 - all by His grace, not by our works - by his grace (free gift) of faith working through love - this is the true Christian gospel - it is that God the Father, through Jesus Christ, His son and our Lord, the last Adam and living word of God, offers our removal from the kingdom/tree of sin/sins, unrighteousness, and death and hell, and the engrafting/inputting of us into the kingdom/tree of God/love, righteousness, and life, by grace, if/when we will yield ourselves to be crucified with him and give up the life and lifestyle of sin - He offers to take away from us the sinful/unrighteous world, flesh, and devil and offers to give to us His godly/righteous spirit instead - He offers to take and transform us from, in the past, bearing the evil and imperfect fruit of sins unto death and hell, to now, in the present and future, bearing the good and perfect fruit of true love unto real life and heaven more and more, now and forever … now bearing the evidence of salvation, proof of eternal life, and sign of the lordship of Christ, which is the good fruit/works/deeds of true love for God with “all” our heart/spirit, with “all” our mind/soul, and with “all” our body/strength, shown in doing his word and commandments of true love for others as ourselves, just as Jesus did (Christlike) following in his steps (The Bible) - This is the way, word, and will of God and of the kingdom of God, our Father, the Father/YHWH/Creator of the universe, the God above all gods who is love - God is love, God is good, and God is light, grace, and truth, and He is the author of all love, good, light, grace, and truth - to come to God, the first requirement is to believe this and believe in God’s promises like Abraham did (The Bible) - “God” is the spirit of love, the spirit of good, and the spirit of light, grace, and truth - “Sin” is anything and everything other than true love, good, light, grace, and truth … “Sin” is anti-God/love, non-God/love, or false gods/love, which make up the three-fold broad way of sin … “Sin” is anti-religion, non-religion, and false religions, not true religion, which is clearly defined in James 1:25-2:8 and Micah 2:8 and John 13-17 and Matthew 4-7 and 25 and 1 John 1-5 and the entire New Testament and Old Testament - What is the true gospel? The true gospel is the good news that we can now be removed/taken from the kingdom/body/tree of sin, which we were all born into, with its lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes, and pride of life, and we can be placed in the kingdom/body/tree of God … Jesus came to remove us from the kingdom/body/tree of sin and rebirth us into the kingdom/body/tree of God - Most Christians, people, and “atheists” haven’t heard the true gospel put or explained this way - Jesus came to make us dead to our past self as we put our faith in God, hope in God, and love toward God, so that we love God (the spirit of love, good, light, grace, and truth - the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit) - and love others as ourselves, as The Father has commanded - Jesus came so that we can follow him and follow his example by allowing God to give us His righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit. free from sin, death, and hell, and now abiding with God/Love, life, and heaven…in this lifetime, despite persecutions, problems, and pressures (which God will turn to work for our good anyway as we remain in him loving Him and loving others as we are called and purposed by him to do), and in eternity to come. That’s the good news. That’s the true gospel of the true Christ Jesus - it’s not replacement theology that leaves people as “sinners” who are saved by grace while they still continue to sin in sin as sinners, but its also not being overly religious or spiritual outwardly, trying to show religion through works of laws outwardly, judging others, but failing to love as Christ loved and as the Father has commanded - it’s also not being just godless human flesh, living as evolved animals in the universe by evolution, seeking to do less harm than good and competing to win over others for ourselves and for our family and secret society of alliances - and it’s not being “beings of consciousness” seeking to do good, worshipping the universe - …“God is spirit, not a man or son of man” … God is not “the man upstairs” or “man above.” … Spirit. (The Bible) - God is the creator/author/former of the universe, not the created universe itself … the universe shows His handiwork, and it is not to be worshipped … we are to worship God alone - So what/Who is God? “God is spirit and those who worship God must worship in spirit and in truth” (The Bible) - “God is love” - I.e. God is the spirit of love” (The Bible) … not love for the sin of the world, the flesh, or the devil, because sin is diametrically polar opposite opposed to God, but rather hate for sin which is love for God/love - “God is Father/Creator/YHWH” (The Bible) … sin is the stealer, killer, and the destroyer of life - “God is light in whom is no darkness” (The Bible) sin is darkness…good mixed with evil that blinds - God is truth … “He cannot lie.” (The Bible) … sin and the world, flesh, and devil always only lie - God is good … “Only God is good” (The Bible) sin and the world, flesh, abs devil are laced with evil - “God is the giver of all good gifts” (The Bible). Nothing truly and totally good comes from sin - And God is manifested in Jesus Christ, the wisdom of God, the lamb of God, the son of God who is the image and likeness of the Father, so that when we see Jesus we see God (The Bible) Jesus is the one who is the “last Adam,” come to literally replace, restart, and reverse the first Adam’s curse of sin, unrighteousness, and death for all who will humble themselves and yield themselves to take up their cross and allow their old self of sin to die and be resurrected with Christ spiritually immediately, mentally by the word of God, and the physically partially now and fully after this life, with the Holy Spirit leading and empowering our body in this lifetime in the meantime, blessing us, benefiting us, helping us, comforting us, leading us, guiding us, correcting us, protecting us, prospering us, enlightening us, loving us, and giving us the life of God and of Heaven on earth, even while hell is all around us in the earth. That’s it. There’s the true gospel. Judge for yourself what you believe.

There it is again. You deserve to go to hell. Just for being born. Because of something your ancestors did. The god of the Bible truly is a moral monster.

You got mythfinder debunking you because you debunked Billy and now that is what it becomes you debunk Billy now Billy&#39;s friends come to debunk you who&#39;s right

What happens to a person who is saved and cannot stop sinning .... What is the justice if he is forgiven again and again...

What I learned from this is ..Wes Huff is too smart for my limited brain

Judaism chill/Islam not chill? I dont understand. Kinda reeks of rothschild ass licker.

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@zero3045<br>0 seconds ago<br>I’ll tell you what some misconceptions are as someone who isn’t currently a believer but has learned more about it in the last six months. <br>1. Son of God. When you hear those words, ya tend to take it literally. So people referencing that but saying it as some other inside joke meaning which you only understand after some studying is a little frustrating. <br>2. The Holy Trinity. Fuuuuck in this annoying to understand when even the people explaining say they don’t understand and analogies only go so far. <br>3. What people say about God being love. His love and what is supposedly means with Him only giving as much as you are willing to take. How if you turn away from Him, He will never force Himself on you. It’s a little insane when you properly hear this for the first time after years of just hearing the small bits about Christianity. <br><br>Like fuck. I went my whole life until recently before just starting to understand the basics of this and it’s frustrating for a lot of ways. <br>And don’t even get me started on the batshit crazy things people quote from the bible. That’s one of the main things that keeps me from believing. That’s and some people, some well know and loved intellectual or whatever you wanna call them on trying to justify genocide of the God of the Old Testament. <br><br><br>I think she people have been in the “Light” for so long or have always been in it, they forget what it is like for those that haven’t been in it. <br><br>Ranted a bit but yea…

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjeovAKWwjs">https://youtu.be/DjeovAKWwjs?si=3X0R98MMkjQeUgzC</a>

Nobody knows how to explain bible accurately why because only Holyspirit no other doctrines only one doctrines doctrines of Jesus Christ

Amen and amen!!

Wes, AA has brought me back from the depths of hell and addiction to Christ and uve been instrumental in this journey along the way. Thank You brother 🙏

So powerful yet simple ❤️

He set the conversation up so perfectly the host just hit the baseline

What Is the Gospel — And How Are We Saved?<br>When we let Scripture define its own terms, the picture is remarkably consistent.<br>1 Corinthians 15:1–4 defines the gospel itself:<br>Christ died for our sins,<br>He was buried,<br>He was raised on the third day.<br>The gospel is not a ritual.<br>It is the announcement of what God did in Christ.<br><br>So how is that gospel received?<br>Ephesians 2:8–9 says:<br>We are saved by grace through faith.<br>Not of works, so that no one may boast.<br>Grace is the source.<br>Faith is the means.<br><br>Romans 10:9–10 adds:<br>If you confess Jesus as Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.<br><br>Notice the focus: belief in the risen Christ.<br>John 3:16 says:<br>Whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.<br>The dividing line is belief.<br>Life vs. perishing.<br><br>Now what about Mark 16:16?<br>He who believes and is baptized will be saved;<br>but he who does not believe will be condemned.<br>Belief is again decisive. The condemnation clause is tied to unbelief. Baptism is not presented as an independent mechanism, but as the obedient expression of belief.<br><br>When we put all of this together, the harmony is clear:<br>The gospel is the death and resurrection of Christ.<br>Salvation is by grace.<br>It is received through faith in the risen Lord.<br>That faith expresses itself openly — in confession and baptism.<br>And its final fulfillment is eternal life, the defeat of death.<br><br>There is no contradiction between these passages — only complementary emphasis.<br>Grace is the source.<br>Christ is the ground.<br>Faith is the instrument.<br>Obedience is the expression.<br>Resurrection is the hope.<br><br>When we let each text speak in its own voice, the message is beautifully unified.

Think the thing is, I don’t see that in the Bible Wes. I don’t see this. Jesus takes all our sins even beyond his physical abuse. All sin is put on Jesus that way I don’t think that’s what it means.

I&#39;m 30 now discovering that all the time Im spending my time figuring out the Bible IS practicing faith it is a work. I&#39;m super grateful to be able to communicate with older and younger people alike and be a voice of reason for my reason is Christ and the Bible.

Hallelujah!

Preach it!

Well put. I recall the story of the King and his criminal daughter as a good example. Also, if you did knock over those cameras there is no way Julian could take you 😂

Thank you again Wes for your brilliant clarity on these matters. Christianity is not works based but our works are a celebration of what He has done for us and we are now free to produce the fruit of the new creation which we were powerless to do with our old sin nature. 👏👏👏😃😃😃

This rings me to tears, im finnaly starting to let go of selfishness and sin, praise god!

As usual, wes is wrong on many counts. Here is an analysis going off of scripture:<br><br><br>The idea that humans are naturally evil or &quot;depraved&quot; is a theological construct. It is not a divine fact. In **Genesis 1:31**, God declares His creation &quot;very good&quot; (*tov me&#39;od*). This goodness is the original nature of the soul.
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<br>Sin (*hamartia*) is not an ontological state of being. It is a state of forgetfulness. It is missing the mark of one&#39;s divine origin. Christ did not come to fix a &quot;broken&quot; species through a blood transaction. He came to reveal the true identity of the human spirit.
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<br>The Light: John 1:9 states that the true Light gives light to <b>every</b> human.
<br>The Temple:Paul asks in 1 Corinthians 6:19, &quot;Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit?&quot; A temple is not inherently evil. It is a sacred space that may be clouded by ignorance.
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<br>The speaker claims God requires a penalty. He suggests the Father cannot &quot;just forgive&quot; without a death. This portrays the Father as a prisoner to a higher law of &quot;Justice.&quot;
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<br><b>Christ as the Example:</b>
<br>Jesus repeatedly forgave sins without a sacrifice. In *Mark 2:5*, he tells the paralytic, &quot;Your sins are forgiven.&quot; He does not wait for the cross to authorize this. He does not demand a goat or a ritual. Forgiveness is an act of the Father&#39;s nature. It is not a result of a payment.
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<br>The word often translated as &quot;sacrifice&quot; is <b>Korban</b> (קָרְבָּן). This comes from the root *karav*, meaning &quot;to draw near.&quot; The purpose was never to appease a violent God. It was a symbolic act of bringing one&#39;s self closer to the Divine.
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<br>Jesus is the *Logos*. He is the living embodiment of divine consciousness. He did not step into &quot;depravity&quot; to be punished. He entered the human experience to demonstrate the path of *Union*.
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<br>The cross was not a payment to the Father. It was a demonstration of the Father’s love. It showed that even at the height of human violence and ignorance, the Divine remains whole. Resurrection is the proof that our true life is untouchable by the systems of this world.
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<br>The speaker calls humanity the &quot;weakest.&quot; He says Christ is the &quot;fittest&quot; who dies for us. This is a hierarchy of shame. Christ calls us <b>friends</b> (*John 15:15*). He does not call us &quot;the weakest.&quot; He invites us to do the same works he did. He seeks to share his glory with us (*John 17:22*).
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<br>We do not need a sacrifice to be &quot;accepted.&quot; We are accepted because we are His. The spiritual journey is the unveiling of what is already hidden within. It is the remembrance of our union with the Father.<br><br><br><br>The speaker describes <b>Buddhism</b> as a system to destroy the self. In reality, the concept of <b>Anatta</b> (Pali: <b>anattā*) does not mean destruction. It refers to the realization that a permanent, independent self never existed. One cannot destroy what is already recognized as an illusion. *Samsara</b> is not merely a cycle of punishment. It is a cycle of conditioned existence driven by ignorance.
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<br>The speaker claims the God of <b>Islam</b> forgives arbitrarily. This ignores the Islamic concept of <b>Adl</b> (Justice). In the Quran, repentance (*tawbah*) is a sincere return to God. Mercy is not the absence of justice. It is the fulfillment of God&#39;s nature as the Most Compassionate. The speaker’s camera analogy fails because it assumes a third party must be &quot;paid&quot; for forgiveness to be valid.
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<br>The video frames the <b>Gospel</b> as a legal transaction. It uses the &quot;Judge&quot; analogy to explain <b>Grace</b> (*charis*). This model focuses heavily on <b>Wrath</b> (*orgē*). However, many early traditions viewed the cross through the lens of *Christus Victor*. This view sees Jesus as a liberator from death rather than a sacrifice to appease a legalistic Father.
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<br><br>The speaker claims God cannot &quot;just forgive.&quot; This contradicts the <b>Parable of the Prodigal Son</b> in <b>Luke 15*. In that story, the father forgives the son immediately. He requires no payment or sacrifice. The father’s mercy is a direct expression of his love. *Psalm 103:12</b> states that God removes sins as far as the east is from the west. This is described as a gift of love, not a settled debt.
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<br>The speaker uses the term <b>Trinity</b> to explain Jesus taking the penalty. The word <b>Trinity</b> never appears in scripture. While the divinity of Christ is central to the New Testament, the idea of the &quot;second person&quot; suffering to satisfy the &quot;first person&quot; is a later medieval development. It is not the only way to understand the *Atonement*.

The gospel doesn&#39;t prove God, it destroys God. Even Christ exposes Yahweh as a false God. Example, “Is God evil?” is not a moral provocation but a logical probe. It forces clarity about what the word God is supposed to mean. If the term collapses under its own implications, then no amount of faith can rescue it. If God is incapable of evil, then God is constrained by a moral boundary external to himself. A constrained being is not absolute. Whatever limits God would therefore be more fundamental than God, which immediately disqualifies him from being the ultimate ground of reality. If God is capable of evil, then evil exists within God’s nature. This means evil is not a deviation from God but an expression of him. Evil would then be ontologically primary, not accidental.
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<br>Christian theology attempts to escape this by claiming God defines good and evil by fiat. But definition by power is not morality, it is dominance. If “good” merely means “whatever God does,” then the term loses all moral content and becomes tautological. A standard that is set by a being and violated by that same being is not a standard at all. It is exemption disguised as authority. Moral authority that applies only downward is indistinguishable from tyranny. The Bible compounds this problem by asserting that humanity is created in the image of God. If this image includes moral attributes, then human tendencies toward violence, jealousy, and domination must reflect divine characteristics. If those traits are condemned in humans but permitted in God, then punishment becomes incoherent. One cannot justly condemn a reflection for resembling its source.
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<br>If, instead, humans are punished for exhibiting traits that originate in God, then creation itself is unjust. Responsibility would lie with the designer, not the design. If the image of God excludes moral likeness, then the phrase “created in God’s image” becomes meaningless and reduced to a vague metaphor with no explanatory power. Thus, every attempt to reconcile divine morality with human punishment results in contradiction: either injustice, incoherence, or semantic collapse. The problem deepens when God is portrayed as demanding moral behavior that contradicts his own actions. Acts such as genocide, deception, and collective punishment are condemned among humans yet celebrated or excused when attributed to God. This is not moral transcendence. Transcendence would imply a higher coherence, not a lower one. A morality that requires constant exception clauses is not higher; it is lower and unstable.
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<br>The appeal to “mystery” does not resolve this instability. Mystery can excuse ignorance, but it cannot justify contradiction. A thing may be beyond understanding without being self-contradictory; the Biblical God is both. Nature provides an unspoken counterargument. The natural order exhibits continuity, causality, and proportionality. Whatever God is, if God exists, that order would be an expression of his nature. A true God would not need to violate the structure of reality to assert authority. To constantly suspend natural law is to imply that the law is not truly divine, or that God is at odds with his own creation. The Biblical God regularly acts against nature rather than through it. Miracles are framed as interruptions rather than expressions. Faith is framed as belief despite evidence rather than understanding through it.
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<br>This places God in opposition to reality itself. But a being opposed to reality cannot be its source. That which must break the system is subordinate to the system. The demand that humans reject reason, observation, and moral intuition in favor of obedience is another signal of incoherence. Truth does not fear scrutiny; only fragile claims do. Belief, even religious belief, must still have a rational foundation. Faith without coherence is not faith, it is submission. The saying “you can’t have your cake and eat it too” expresses a universal constraint: mutually exclusive claims cannot both be true. Even quantum physics, paradoxical as it is, obeys strict mathematical consistency.

Why is God in the old testament so vengeful? He destroys the entire world for some clan not being faithful to him. He is often called the god of Israel. What about others in the world? The Bible, like Torah, Quran, Manusmriti, Geetha, ramayana etc etc, are simply a combination of fantasy based on some history and some stories.

He explained God’s justice, mercy, and grace extremely well. And how each are fulfilled by Jesus Christ! Notice how there’s 3…

This is overcomplicating unnecessarily, think of &quot;the way, the truth and the life&quot; and you&#39;re there.

Justice - you pay equally<br>Mercy - you pay less<br>Grace - someone else pays

Why didn&#39;t they hide the bible?

Regarding &quot;Justice&quot; - there&#39;s consequences we experience on earth for the sins we commit. Even though we are forgiven the eternal punishment, there is &quot;justice&quot; on earth. These are the consequences of our actions (be they good or bad). God, by His mercy, may remove those earthly consequences but not always.

Heard this guy on Rogan a while ago….helped turned me to Christ

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVeEBLrb8bM&amp;t=147">2:27</a>

The story of Jesus is a story of love from our father in heaven. <br>Every word of the Bible God gives us hoping that we&#39;ll know He loves us.<br>He can&#39;t hug us through Bible stories , but all the stories promise that someday Our Father WILL hold us in His arms and wipe away every tear.<br>FOREVER

This video is on repeat

I explain it like this im expected to follow men who aren’t married can’t marry and have no kids. also are virgins, they’re supposed to be teachers honestly man they’re not teaching me anything I don’t understand. It’s a shame a joke and a mockery of our faith. I know I’m not alone with this revelation.

Sin is paid for in blood. God sacrificed his son as payment for our sins.

Karma is ripped off from the Bible and twisted.<br>The wages of sin is death. Pretty much everyone I&#39;ve ever heard of has collected those wages.<br>Pretty much the only sin that costs you eternity is the sin of rejection of the only begotten Son of God.

With an ego and pride like that Wes explains more unchristian like behaviors and beliefs than true Christian believers.

28. so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVeEBLrb8bM&amp;t=195">3:15</a> Grace = unwarranted forgiveness.

Nobody knows who wrote the gospels. In the year 170CE, a Geek bishop, Irenaeus invented the 4 names and inserted them into the gospels. It is extremely convenient that the other gospels (10+) were excluded because they contradict the 4 gospels that were included.

Such a beautiful and clear presentation of the gospel!