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As a teacher I can't even blame some of the children, they tell me their family is sleeping in car seats and mum can no longer afford to pack lunch. It seems to be the ones who are dealing with this housing crisis that cause most of the problems. I am not sure if they are just acting out or are just mad at the world for their circumstances but from my experience if you give me the childs circumstance I can nearly pick it 1 for 1 who will be disruptive.

I would say more than that!

We all saw this coming decades ago, when disciplinary action was scaled back. Now, as with violent crime, there is a relatively small group of offenders disrupting our education system, yet we seem powerless to contain them. IMO, there needs to be a zero-tolerance approach, a MUCH greater focus on the actual offenders, and REAL consequences at the individual level.<br><br>Yes, this is a broader issue, so wider measures are also needed. Many of these boys come from dysfunctional or broken families and are influenced by their social media interactions. But strategies such as subjecting everyone to workshops are, frankly, highly inefficient. It hasn&#39;t addressed bullying, and it isn&#39;t going to stop this either. And there is even a risk that such approaches reinforce poor self-esteem and unhealthy behaviours by framing males and females primarily as oppressors and the oppressed.<br><br>I believe it would be far more effective if children could immediately see that such behaviour is simply not accepted, not tolerated, and not without consequences. That needs to be the central focus. If laws and the public school system need to be restructured to enable this, then so be it.

I used to get the strap, that was after they banned the ruler…sorted me out. I graduated with an economics/law degree from the ANU in the late 80s, and a 2yr FT MBA in the mid 90s. Get stuck into them.

Male teachers aren’t allowed to discipline male kids like they used to. Most have left the profession. Boys will push the boundaries until they are confronted, sometimes that confrontation needs to be physical in nature. I’m not talking abuse I’m talking a good verbal and physical confrontation to let them know it’s not on and won’t be tolerated.

Dumb.

Its almost as if the ratio of one teacher to 26+ students isn’t a realistic or workable paradigm…🤔

Our survey found that we should conduct another survey...

Student representatives forum time ! <br>Get the kids to tell you what they need.

In my school there is ongoing SA (sexual assault) involving kids but nobody does anything and I’ve told adults and everyone but the school ignores it to protect their image

Maybe if you taught actually interesting subjects, rather than indoctrinating them with NaarmLGBTQImen-are-toxic-yass-queen philosophy, you&#39;d have students who weren&#39;t squirming in their seats.

we need character education to be part of the required curriculum from Grade 1 up.

Consistent with where this country is headed. Those vested with power and responsibilities discharge the latter via token gestures and stingy with the former so not to endanger their brand and image. This is how ambivalence now permeates throughout Australia.😮

&quot;we asked underpaid and overworked teachers responsible for classes 5 times larger than they should be how they felt about the current situation and they said @#%&amp; is @#%&amp;ed&quot;<br><br>yeah, ofc it is, we are using an archaic 200 year old system in 2026 and still forcing children to attend school at a mandatory age when they may or may not be ready for it and give them minimal to no support causing them to come out of the other end with boat loads of trauma and no direction in life<br><br>maybe its time to overhaul our medieval education system and put some actually funding and money into the schools and the teachers who want to be there

Blame the parents . These parents are from 20 years too 40 years old and have no clue how to look after children . They don&#39;t even watch what there children are doing . They are mentally not functioning themselves .

Disruptive students are NOT the ROOT of the problem, they are the most obvious SYMPTOM!<br>These problems begin in the student&#39;s household! So a very different approach is needed to deal with and repair! ...and our governments are NOT going to do it!

The problem is most Australian adults not knowing how to discipline children without being abusive. One extreme to the other clearly doesn&#39;t help.

They don&#39;t need another survey, just work on the fix now. They can start with if its a crime outside the classroom, then its a crime inside one too.

Newtown Performing Arts, a school producing Hollywood tier kids, has some of the most entitled parents. Like a parent will get a call about their kid not doing homework and the parent replies &quot;why are you targeting my child?&quot;. Heck, a parent complained when their kid got in trouble for breaking another kid&#39;s nose!!. Worst of all is the students already know the system works on their favour...

If you wont allow teachers to remove students from the class room and if headmasters don&#39;t shield teachers from abusive parents then just give up , no more surveys needed.

blame shitty parents and schools not standing their ground in punishing students

It’s sad that the rights of students to get quality education is sacrificed by going so easy on disruptive students.

As a parent, remembering my own time in Australian schools and seeing the teaching methods used now, I’m actually shocked by how lax and consequence-free schools have become.
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<br>Give the kids a choice about whether they want to participate; if they don’t, they can go and chill in the spare room. If they’re disruptive, oh well—just get the parent to pick them up. Year 3 doesn’t even believe in tests or homework... and they don’t ban phones or iPads? Jeez, I thought that was a given. I certainly restrict their use at home. It’s just crazy!
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<br>Doing classwork and listening shouldn’t be optional—it should be mandatory. There’s too much gentle teaching and “respecting the child’s autonomy.” That’s something to weave in much, much later.
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<br>There should be consequences: standing in the corner, detention, being sent to the principal’s office, or being given extra work at lunchtime with no play if they act up. There should also be tests, so kids can see how they’re doing compared with their peers and realise when they’re falling behind and need to catch up.
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<br>A parent can only do so much by adding homework and tutors. Sometimes, the strongest motivation is seeing that you’re the one struggling to keep up, feeling embarrassed about it, and then internally wanting to improve and learn.
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<br>It’s just crazy—the journey I’m on, discovering how much the Australian school system has changed... its like the responsibility for educating kids is fading away, cloaked by this new idea of giving the kids freedom of choice, expecting kids to choose the math and science, over stuffing around..

are parents failing parenting or are teachers failing teaching? are children not learning disipline at an early age?

I left this country decades ago and a huge reason was because I knew as a “non-traditional” woman, I wouldn’t fare well in such a misogynistic country. I’ve been back since 2020 and so it’s extra heartbreaking to know that this is not only not getting better, but actively getting worse amongst youth. What a sad state of affairs.

The response should not be another survey. There is clearly a collection of information and findings around this already. They should act on the info they have.

What this tells you is that kids aren&#39;t interested in the classroom. It&#39;s damaging children&#39;s health too, not just the teachers.